Episode 84 | Stress-Proof Your Life - Eliz Greene

In this episode, we're diving into a life-changing conversation with the fascinating Eliz Green, a speaker, consultant, author, and heart attack survivor, about stress management. Eliz shares her powerful story of having a heart attack while seven months pregnant with twins, an experience that led her to focus on managing stress. We discuss how to recognize stress triggers and create personalized coping strategies. But more than that, we're uncovering the stress traps we all fall into and how you can break free.


About Eliz:

Eliz Greene is passionate about stress—how it affects our bodies and how we can manage it. A heart attack survivor at 35 while pregnant with twins, she knows stress management is essential for survival.

As an author, speaker, and mother, Eliz believes small changes make a big difference. Through her research and real-life experiences, she connects with audiences, offering practical solutions to overwhelm and uncertainty. Thousands have benefited from her insights, learning to manage stress, prevent health crises, and lead more purposeful lives.

Contact Eliz:

https://elizgreene.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/theelizgreene/
https://www.youtube.com/@theelizgreene

Resources:
https://www.amazon.com/Stress-Proof-Your-Heart-Longer-Protect-ebook/dp/B07WZX3JJX/
https://elizgreene.com/blog/

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Transcript

Speaker 1 00:00:01  Welcome to UN Copyable Women in Business. I'm your host, Kay Miller. Also known as Muffler Mama. Now, I don't know if you're an entrepreneur, business owner, sales professional, or part of an organization, but I do know that you want to be more successful, earn more money, and make a bigger impact. How do you do that? You create an advantage that's so unique it cannot be copied. That makes you not just the best choice, but the only choice. Stay tuned as I, along with my guests, give you marketing, sales, and personal branding strategies that will give you an unstoppable advantage. I am very excited to be welcoming Eliz Green to the podcast. Eliz is a speaker, consultant, author and heart attack survivor as she puts it. Eliz is ridiculously excited about stress Through her research, along with her own experience, she's come up with practical strategies to manage stress, which she considers an essential survival skill. Eliz. Welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 2 00:01:14  Thank you so much for having me, Kate.
Speaker 1 00:01:16  I am very excited seriously to have you. We met what, three years ago was 2 or 3 years ago in Nashville, and that was at the National Speakers Association annual meeting. And you are a very prolific author and of course, speak to many groups were also both. We both have books published by Sound Wisdom Publishing. That's right. And your book, which I've got right behind me if you're watching on video or if you're not, and it's called Stress Proof Your Life and just a ton of great information, lots of good stories. And all of us are so stressed out now. Or we are at least subjected to a ton of stress. And of course, Covid didn't help. We've got politics, we've got all kinds of things. So we all need to stress proof our lives that I can't wait to dig into this with you. Liz, we have to start out with your big, huge story that started all of this, which is just really hard to believe. You were 35 years old or seven months pregnant after, and you had difficulty even getting pregnant.
Speaker 1 00:02:27  And then a fine, how do you do? You had a heart attack while you were pregnant, so tell tell us about that.
Speaker 2 00:02:36  Fortunately, I was in the hospital at the time. I being pregnant with twins and not a particular whole person. So I'm five three on a good day.
Speaker 1 00:02:45  A steady, a very tall.
Speaker 2 00:02:47  Yeah, I didn't stand up tall. We're big heels so I what I had pre-term labor like starting at month four by a month. Six. I was in the hospital on bedrest to control those contractions, and I spent a whole month there. And people often say, how could you possibly stay in bed that long? And I'm like, if I got up, I stir up things like serious labor. So it wasn't that hard. And really, I would have one upside down by my toenails just to keep those babies in there a little bit longer. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:03:21  To be mentioned, there were two babies.
Speaker 2 00:03:23  Yeah, two babies and two babies.
Speaker 1 00:03:25  We gotta throw that in, because when I got pregnant, I thought the last thing I want to hear is that I'm going to have twins.
Speaker 1 00:03:31  You know.
Speaker 2 00:03:31  I knew there was a possibility that it could have been three. It was good luck to. All right. But anyway, I was there just buying my own business. On a Sunday morning I had breakfast, I ate lying down. The only time I got to really sit upright was if everything was going well. I could have a shower and it was a big deal. It was a sitting down shower. I had to sit upright. I got to get clean. It was great. I looked forward to the shower. So I was in there doing that, and I started to have what I thought was heartburn. And because I ate laying down, I had all of this burning pressure feeling. So I finished my shower, I got out and I was putting my hair into a ponytail, and this heartburn feeling became really intense and I started to throw up. And it's not my tummy. That's not normal, but what is going on here? And I knew that there was something really wrong.
Speaker 2 00:04:34  I went and called for the nurse, and that set in motion all the things that saved my life. They were people in my room right away. My high risk OBGYN was doing her rounds on the floor, so she was in my room very quickly, started asking me questions about, is anybody in your family ever have an early heart attack? And I'm like, you crazy lady, I'm not having a heart attack. Yes, I'm on you. so yeah, my heart stopped and didn't beat for ten minutes. Fortunately, all these people are in my room. There's a respiratory therapist who got a mask on me right away. I got CPR right away. There was a cardiologist on his way to my room when they called the code, so got great treatment. They were able to restart my heart with the defibrillator. I woke up knowing everything was going to be okay. I wasn't the only person that felt that way. So in a span of just a few hours, things really changed for us.
Speaker 2 00:05:39  they were able to diagnose what was going on with my heart. In that heart cath lab. I needed to have bypass surgery. So they delivered the girl's family emergency C-section and really started to repair my heart. I had amazing care and my girls are now 23, have graduated from college and are fully employed and I'm doing really well. I am starting my 60th trip around the sun and happy for every day I get.
Speaker 1 00:06:09  I'm sure that you are appreciating every day of your life and what a story you happen to be in the hospital. I feel like that's a God moment. My husband Steve actually recently had. He's fine, by the way. He had a stroke and so many things went right. And wow, the fact that you this happened to you, this horrible thing. But you were in the right place at the right time. And luckily, your girls were far enough along so that, yes, you could have them. Right. How far along were you.
Speaker 2 00:06:37  For 32.5 weeks, which are still early? Real early.
Speaker 2 00:06:43  It's about seven weeks early, but because I'd been on bed rest, they were big comparatively. You can call £3 15oz.
Speaker 1 00:06:50  I had an £8 seven ounce for that. Yeah, that's very small.
Speaker 2 00:06:54  but comparatively for preemies, they were big. They looked like giants in miniature, and they'd had the steroids to develop their lungs and, and that sort of things. But they still had some ways to go. They were pretty healthy. And, and we were really all home together in about three weeks. They tell you they're not going to go home until their due date, but they outperformed.
Speaker 1 00:07:18  Yeah, they were highly advanced from the very beginning. That whole story begs so many questions. But we only have 30 minutes. And I want to obviously give our listeners as many, tools that as that we can. Of course, you should go to Eliza's website, Liz green.com. Right. I'll put that in the show notes and learn more about this story because it's just amazing. But that launched a career that you might not have had.
Speaker 1 00:07:43  We're just talking about I. Yeah. Go ahead.
Speaker 2 00:07:46  Yeah, yeah. There is very little that's the same before and after that event. Who's still married to my amazing husband.
Speaker 1 00:07:54  He must be totally amazing. I saw some videos of him. He's very amazing.
Speaker 2 00:07:58  And before everything happened I was a dance teacher and choreographer after I know, but it's still like getting up in front of people and then after it. Shortly after everything happened, I was asked to be a speaker at a event kicking off the American Heart Walk here in Milwaukee, and went in and told my story and motivated people to raise money and that sort of thing just happened to be somebody from the national organization there and said, hey, she's thinking about being the National Heart Walk spokesperson. And so for two years, I was the spokesperson for the American Heart Walk, spoke to in front of a lot of people.
Speaker 1 00:08:44  Oh, I'm sure. And apparently you didn't mind it. You're great. And you're so curious about it.
Speaker 2 00:08:48  I really like it now.
Speaker 2 00:08:50  I will admit though, when I first started I was on beta blockers, which is what they give people who are nervous about public speaking. Perfect.
Speaker 1 00:08:58  That's probably better than a shot at tequila.
Speaker 2 00:09:01  You know? Yeah, but then I was always thinking about returning to work. One is, the staff people at the American Heart Association said, people will pay you.
Speaker 1 00:09:12  You're really good at this. You get the little pay.
Speaker 2 00:09:14  And I'm like, what? But then not through there. As you said, the National Speakers Association found people who would tell me exactly how to do this business, and that launched my career. It was also right around the time where the go Red for women campaign. Being somebody who was young and had a heart attack and was willing to talk about it was something that was easily marketable.
Speaker 1 00:09:45  Although you know what and this is true for the really great speakers like you, it's harder than it looks. So you said somebody told you you could make money and you could do this, and they would tell you how to do it.
Speaker 1 00:09:55  So you obviously had. Yeah, it.
Speaker 2 00:09:58  Sounds a lot easier than just name. And it is when you start it. It is. And I did have the benefit of this really ripe market to go to. It was perfect timing. However, that didn't last 3 or 4 years later. There are a lot of women who are willing to stand up and talk about their battles with heart disease. Great for liquid, good for my best health over. But how many.
Speaker 1 00:10:27  People, how many women can say they were seven months pregnant with twins when they had their heart attack?
Speaker 2 00:10:33  That is, I know. So it is a rare but not unheard of complication of pregnancy. So it does happen. But it's actually what happened to me is called a spontaneous dissection. It happens. Not a lot of women survive it. And and then also a lot of going to stand up, tell everybody about it. But but as I said, my market disappeared in a way because now there's all of these people who will volunteer to tell their story.
Speaker 2 00:11:00  Like many business people, I had to switch my market. And over time, I began to realize that no one ever is all that excited for a keynote on hard Help remake. Think that we know it's important. Nobody is excited about it. But I kept getting asked to do something on work. Life balance or stress. And stress is a major risk factor for heart disease, and people really get excited about something. So that's what happened. That's why I seven years of research to write a book so that I was giving good scientific backed strategies to address stress rather than just, oh, that sounds like a good idea. And that really shifted my career.
Speaker 1 00:11:51  So then you were so motivated to say, okay, how can I help other people fight stress and also yourself, right?
Speaker 2 00:11:59  And oh yeah.
Speaker 1 00:11:59  The good news for you is that the world has gotten more and more stressful.
Speaker 2 00:12:03  So this is what you call now? Yeah. Divisive politics. Yeah. And so, yeah, just.
Speaker 1 00:12:14  About someone listening who's stressed out as we all are.
Speaker 1 00:12:18  I don't I doubt anyone can say, oh, I have zero stress in my life, but how can people deal with that better? And I also I need to ask you about the border collie and the iguana story.
Speaker 2 00:12:30  Oh, yeah. All right. So that's a lot. So first of all, the I agree with you. I don't think anybody ever has zero stress because zero stress would be boring.
Speaker 1 00:12:44  You said stress is good on some level, right?
Speaker 2 00:12:46  Sometimes. Yes stress actually is just a natural reaction to what's in our environment. So if you're driving down the highway and you're hanging out all the right lane because you're getting off into exits, and then somebody comes barreling down the onramp and you recognize that you are going to converge, and that accident might happen. And you look to your left and there's a big truck coming by. That's a stress trigger, right? All kinds of things start happening in your body. Your heart rate goes up, your blood pressure goes up, your blood even get stickier.
Speaker 2 00:13:17  So if you were in the car accident, you wouldn't bleed to death. And your brain is now completely focused. I know it's cool. That's why I'm ridiculously excited about stress.
Speaker 1 00:13:27  I can see I'm.
Speaker 2 00:13:28  Getting excited too. Yeah, your brain is focused on avoiding the car accident, so if the radio is on, you're not hearing it anymore. But if you then the truck clears and you're able to get over and you avoid the car and get that sort of tingly.
Speaker 1 00:13:47  Oh, I know that. Yeah, the adrenaline's there and then it's gone and. Yeah. And the.
Speaker 2 00:13:52  Cortisol too. That's your stress hormone that stress hormones triggers all of that coming up. And then when it ebbs out, when you don't need it anymore, all of that comes back to equilibrium, which is how it's supposed to work.
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Speaker 2 00:14:34  First, your body doesn't know the difference or your brain doesn't know the difference between that car accident might happen in a surprise birthday party, both the same readers. So if we didn't get the fun of the surprise birthday party life is for it. It's not good or bad justice. And then two. That ebbing is an important part of the equation. If that cortisol never has the chance to come down because you're constantly bombarded, perhaps by political ads and messages marketing, it's just constantly triggering until your horse all level is here and never comes back down. And then all kinds of things start. You have trouble sleeping because you can't sleep when your cortisol levels, while you retain fat around your middle, because your body is like, there's something going on, I'm going to hold on to everything I've got.
Speaker 1 00:15:29  Thank you. Yeah. Thank you.
Speaker 2 00:15:31  I often say if you're eating right, exercising, doing all the things that you should and you still are retaining fat around your middle, really take a look at your stress level and your sleep.
Speaker 2 00:15:42  Because if that cortisol level isn't coming down. Your body is. I am holding on. I am just going to keep it right here because I don't know when I'm going to need it. Your body is really smart. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:15:53  Like you said, the blood coagulates. And they're also helping you prepare for a rainy day.
Speaker 2 00:15:59  But none of us actually need higher blood pressure and stickier blood on a long term. Yeah, that's not going to tell us.
Speaker 1 00:16:07  How to help prevent that.
Speaker 2 00:16:08  Right? Well, first thing is to actually notice that you're having a stress reaction or that your stress level is high. And if you go to the put together a resource page for you, stress proof Now.com, if you go there, you can find some quizzes, like how high is your stress level? And you can also find the Border Collie quiz.
Speaker 1 00:16:33  So the Border Collie and Iguana is a quiz. I love that.
Speaker 2 00:16:37  Intriguing.
Speaker 1 00:16:37  And again, stress proof now.com. I'm going to put all the links that we talk about in the show notes, so don't worry, it's all there.
Speaker 2 00:16:46  Don't stress. Don't stress.
Speaker 1 00:16:49  That's a good one. You probably use that a lot, but yes that's funny. Okay, so awareness is number one.
Speaker 2 00:16:56  Just noticing what's going on. That. Oh wow. Oh my stress level is high. And then taking steps to interrupt that that reaction that's happening and let it come back down your cortisol levels to come back down to normal. Now stress management strategies are often talked about as like just one kind of thing. They're mostly quiet, contemplative strategies. That works well for some people. Other people really need to be distracted from all of the things that are causing them. Stress that especially if uncertainty is part of what's causing them stress. In order to disconnect from all of that and let all this come down to base level again. And this point he really clear on vacation with my husband for his 50th birthday party. He is a type of guy. He likes any activity that has ROMs and stunts you can do and like beaches you can earn. So scuba diving, you know when along when.
Speaker 2 00:18:10  Yeah. So scuba diving was a really great activity for him. But we live in Wisconsin most of his time to take place in Lake Michigan, which is cold, never gets really above the 40s down at the bottom. So for his 50th birthday, we went on a trip to Cozumel, Mexico with a couple of other couples who are divers. I am not a diver. I don't think my cardiologist would think that is a good idea. Probably not. Probably not. And so they would go out diving in the morning enjoying that I get to watch Still Pro video. Love that part. We'd have lunch together and then the other couples would retire to the pool in a mangrove with actual iguanas running around. I didn't know iguanas couldn't swim.
Speaker 1 00:18:56  I didn't either.
Speaker 2 00:18:57  So they wouldn't lounge like iguanas in the sun and have a beverage and read and talk and have another beverage, maybe a nap. And that's where they spent the afternoon. I am super pale and my husband doesn't sit still, so that hanging out by the pool was only going to last so long so we wouldn't leave, go sightseeing, or to the museum or shopping or out on the little sailboat or whatever.
Speaker 2 00:19:24  Always coming back and saying hello and socializing. And then one day one of the gentlemen said to my husband, when are you going to relax you or go all the time? My husband said, I am relaxed. I'm like a border collie If I don't have something to do, I start chewing on things. And it was one of those moments in a marriage where you go, oh, yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 00:19:52  Yeah, that's. Yeah, that's how you tick now I know.
Speaker 2 00:19:55  Yeah. Oh, that is an excellent. That is an excellent metaphor for exactly what happened. So of course I took that and made like an entire career out of that.
Speaker 1 00:20:06  Thanks, honey.
Speaker 2 00:20:07  I'm a smoker, but he's not chewing on furniture. He just can't let go of all of those things that are just chewing on his brain. Whether there's going to be something in his email when he gets back, or whether the project he delegated was going to be done the right way. It's just here, so it's not distracted.
Speaker 2 00:20:27  If he's not occupied, that just keeps chewing and he can't get that cortisol up.
Speaker 1 00:20:32  So meditation or just deep breathing or something won't work for him. Is that.
Speaker 2 00:20:36  Right? No. If you make him sit still, listen to his breath, That makes it stress worse. So. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:20:41  So what does he. So go on.
Speaker 2 00:20:44  Yeah. We all exist somewhere on this, on the spectrum between Border Colony and one. I'm a little more. Elliot. One aside, I like to read my book. Usually in the shade.
Speaker 1 00:20:57  Yes, with your pale notes.
Speaker 2 00:20:59  I also like things that are like gardening or doing sewing projects or things like that, that my hands are busy and that allows my mind to be free, which is meditative in a way. My husband needs things that are more occupied. He may need to work on like he watches retirement YouTube videos like because they're mentally challenging.
Speaker 1 00:21:29  I don't even know what that means, but I'm gonna have to put it out.
Speaker 2 00:21:31  There's a lot of them on YouTube.
Speaker 2 00:21:34  Also, videos about walking through sailboats where sailors. So like, he needs something that is.
Speaker 1 00:21:41  Just.
Speaker 2 00:21:41  Engaging and his brain is active, but not like super active, but it's engaging enough so he's not thinking about all that other stuff so that he can get that. Cause all of all the mysteries, action books, those sort of things are really good. But also for a lot of border collies, it's physical activity as well. But it can't be a physical activity that's boring and okay. And I have to have a.
Speaker 1 00:22:10  Little bit of both. Interesting. So this the quiz that you're talking about, it sounds like it's to help you identify whether you're more like a border collie and an iguana. And then once you determine that, how do you go to find what is going to work for you to, like you said, either be engaged elsewhere or meditate or yeah, what do you do?
Speaker 2 00:22:30  So then when you finish the quiz, you get a list of activities that probably will work for you.
Speaker 2 00:22:38  So whether you're an iguana or an iguana or collie tendencies, or somewhere along the line, you get a list of activities to try. And a lot of those, sometimes you look at them and you're like, oh yeah, I really used to do that. Not and you stop making time for it because it seems like indulgent to do it. But it's the thing that's most likely to allow you to disconnect from your strength. So going back to that hobby or that activity that you really love, whether it's you used to play recreational softball and you let that go. But that's really something that allows you to disconnect, maybe go back to it.
Speaker 1 00:23:22  You know what? I have a personal example of that. And I have I've read the book, but I haven't taken the quiz and I'm definitely going to do that. And I think maybe I'm closer to the border collie side. But one thing, when our daughter, she's a little older than your daughter's, but. She's a kid. She took piano, and I took it with her.
Speaker 1 00:23:42  Years go by. I just started last fall taking it again. And it for me is that exact thing. You're talking about it? Oh, yeah. We into the Zen mode, and I can sit down at the piano and look up at the clock, and an hour went by.
Speaker 2 00:23:57  That's perfect. That is perfect. And I never.
Speaker 1 00:24:00  Thought of that.
Speaker 2 00:24:01  Playing music, listening to music and going to a concert, all of those. I think there's a lot about what happens to our brains when we're involved in music, and a lot in terms of singing. Just if you are a shower singer or a car singer, that's a great way to bring your soul level down and dancing.
Speaker 1 00:24:23  I saw, you know, I know you're a big fan of dancing. Whether you're cleaning the dishes or whatever.
Speaker 2 00:24:30  You can, you.
Speaker 1 00:24:30  Could always dance in that movement. So what I really like about your approach is it's not one size fits all because we all think of meditation and yoga. You know, those types of things.
Speaker 2 00:24:43  Breathing lines are bad, buddy. Yeah, they're not bad. They work. But we don't think of these other things.
Speaker 1 00:24:49  So once you decide where you find out what floats your boat, how what tools that do you have then to help you deal with stress better?
Speaker 2 00:24:59  So that disconnection piece is really important. So you get to stop that reaction that you're having so that you can bring that cortisol level down. And then there are techniques to signal your body to let that that cortisol go. One of them is raising your heart rate up, keeping it there for a little while and bringing it back down.
Speaker 1 00:25:18  I'm assuming you're talking about exercise, not like having a panic attack.
Speaker 2 00:25:22  Well, a panic attack, not great. But sometimes your body makes you let go of the cortisol. So when a lot of times when people are stressed, especially around uncertainty. Anger comes up and we have these outbursts that are here. It goes out, our blood pressure goes up. All of those things happen when we're angry and then it comes back down.
Speaker 2 00:25:49  It's not the healthiest situation in terms of the anger part, but your body will make you get rid of the cortisol. It's also why our bodies sometimes cry in stressful situations or laugh like I had a hotel manager who during Covid, as we were going back, was just stressed beyond measure. And she said, don't come and tell me really bad news. And I just burst out laughing. And she's it is so embarrassing. I'm like, your body is just taking care of you.
Speaker 1 00:26:22  All right. That is so interesting because I remember times even like in school or classrooms and you start to laugh and it's like that anxiety turns to laughter and then you can't stop it That laughing like crying is a release, right? And like you said, if you have a stressful situation like a near-miss car collision afterwards, your body lets all that go.
Speaker 2 00:26:44  So yeah, so there's ways you can signal your body and it doesn't have to be an exercise. It could be cheering on your favorite sports team. So if you're a sports fan like I am and you tend to stand up and scream even in your living room, art, wake us up, comes back down, you get that cortisol release.
Speaker 2 00:27:03  It's a great way. It's better if they lit.
Speaker 1 00:27:06  Are you a cheesehead? Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:27:09  See that?
Speaker 1 00:27:10  That is really interesting, because I think a lot of people do think that living a stress proof life or being stress free is just this even keel. So you're saying no, that's not it. It's no, that's boring. That's boring. I'm, you know, especially if you're a speaker and say you don't want to be boring.
Speaker 2 00:27:30  No, that would not be good for business.
Speaker 1 00:27:32  But as we close this out, really, I think the next step for people would be to go to stress proof now.com and dig a little bit deeper into what your style is, what relaxes you or hypes you up or whatever. Do you have any few closing tips on how to deal with stress?
Speaker 2 00:27:53  Be kind to yourself. I think that's the nice. The best advice that I have is reconcile often should ourselves to death. I should be handling this better or should be able to do this differently. Should. And not recognizing that there is always going to be stress we can't avoid in our environment.
Speaker 2 00:28:18  Like we can get everything all lined up just perfectly, and then something else fly in from outer space. And oh, how about you deal with that? That is just there's always going to be unavoidable stress. Give yourself enough grace and space to back up and say, ooh, I am feeling that this situation has changed in my cortisol level is up. I'm going to take some steps to bring it back down against my brain. And. That's the whole thing. Just be kind enough to yourself and give yourself that space.
Speaker 1 00:28:52  That's a great closing thought. Don't add to your stress by stressing yourself out. Eliz I was excited about this interview and you did not disappoint. I really appreciate you spending the time with me and you're listening. Everyone listening. Enjoy the wisdom and put this to work to help you live a more stress proof life. Thank you Alice.
Speaker 2 00:29:13  Thank you. This was a pleasure.
Speaker 1 00:29:17  Thanks for listening to this episode. And by the way, I invite you to join my Facebook group, Unstoppable Women in Business the next time.
Speaker 1 00:29:26  And always remember to be unstoppable.